Intimacy and Closeness by The School of Life / Тесная связь и Близость
00:00
One of the frequent and painful paradoxes of romantic life is that the more we get to
00:10
know and love someone, the harder it can be to summon up any sincere wish to sleep with
00:16
them. Intimacy and closeness, far from fostering deeper sexual desire, can be the very ingredients
00:23
that destroy excitement – whereas having only just recently met a person and not feeling
00:29
too much for them can set up awkward yet compelling preconditions for wanting very badly to take
00:35
them to bed.
00:37
The conundrum is sometimes colloquially referred to as the ‘madonna-whore complex.’ It
00:43
can sound offensive and reactionary phrased like this – as if the problem applied to only
00:47
one gender and might at some level condone or even promote the very dynamic that it described.
00:54
And yet the phrase circles something highly significant, always contemporary and of relevance
01:00
to every gender (it might, for heterosexual women, be known as the ‘saint brute complex’).
01:06
It was Sigmund Freud who first drew attention to our difficulties connecting love with desire
01:12
in an essay of 1912 titled ‘On the Universal Tendency to Debasement in the Sphere of Love’.
01:20
Of many of his patients, he wrote: ‘Where they love, they have no desire, and where
01:25
they desire, they cannot love.’ In seeking to explain the division, Freud pointed to
01:31
two facts connected to our upbringing: first, in childhood, we are generally brought up
01:36
by people we love deeply and yet towards whom we cannot express sexual feelings (frightened
01:42
as we are by a strict incest taboo); and second, as adults, we tend to choose lovers who in
01:49
certain powerful (though unconscious) ways resemble those whom we loved most dearly as
01:55
children.
01:57
Together these influences set up a devilish conundrum whereby the more deeply we come
02:02
to love someone outside of our family, the more strongly we are reminded of the intimacy
02:07
of our early familial bonds – and hence the less free we instinctively are to express
02:14
our sexual desires without fear or reservation. An incest taboo originally designed to limit
02:20
the genetic dangers of inbreeding can thus succeed in inhibiting and eventually ruining
02:25
our chances of enjoying intercourse with someone to whom we are not in the remotest way related.
02:31
The likelihood of the incest taboo’s re-emergence with a partner increases greatly after the
02:37
arrival of children. Until then, reminders of the parental prototypes on which our choice
02:44
of lovers is subconsciously based can just about be kept at bay. But once there is a
02:50
pram in the hallway and a sweet infant referring to the person we once tied up or explored
02:55
with a sex toy as ‘mummy’ or ‘daddy’, both parties may significantly start to take
03:01
fright, complain of feeling tired and turn in early.
03:04
A dichotomy grows between the ‘pure’ things one can do with a partner one loves and the
03:10
‘dirty’ things one still longs to do – but can only imagine being free enough to do with
03:16
a near stranger. It can feel untenably disrespectful to want to make love to, or to put the matter
03:22
at its sharpest, fuck the kind person who is later going to be preparing lunch boxes
03:26
and arranging the school rota.
03:29
To start to overcome the problem, it pays to observe that not all childhoods are equal
03:34
in their tendencies to generate sexual difficulties for people in later life. A parent who is
03:40
very uncomfortable with their body may send out covert signals that sex is invariably
03:45
dirty, bad and dangerous – and thereby lends their child an impression that it truly can’t
03:50
belong within a loving relationship. A more integrated and mature parent on the other
03:56
hand may suggest that they are reconciled to their desires and relaxed about some of
04:01
the proto-sexual things that small children naturally and innocently do: make a great
04:07
deal of noise and mess, take an interest in their bodies and (at a certain age) talk about
04:12
poo a lot. The feeling that one can be naughty and still loved and ‘good’ is one the
04:17
great gifts a parent may bequeath to their child.
04:20
A lot of the work to repair the love/sex dichotomy can, strangely for something so physical,
04:27
be done in the mind. We can conceptually start to rehabilitate sex as a serious and in its
04:33
way entirely respectable topic that good people who love their children and their jobs and
04:39
are invested in an upstanding life can be profoundly interested in; that there need
04:43
be no conflict between a longing to be filthy and depraved at some points and decorous and
04:49
respectable at others. We can contain multitudes: the us that wants to flog or be debased or
04:55
smear and the us that wants to advise, nurture and counsel. One can be whore and madonna,
05:02
brute and saint. Rather than seeking out different partners, we might settle, less disruptively,
05:09
on merely adopting different roles. A child cannot express love and sexuality to a parent;
05:15
and vice versa. But it is one of the privileges of adulthood, that we no longer have to be
05:20
hampered by such a paradigm. Our lovers need not be only cosy co-parents and responsible
05:27
sweet friends, they can for a time – in the very best transgressive sense – also be something
05:33
else that is hugely important to our mental well-being and the survival of our relationships:
05:38
partners in crime.
05:44
If you enjoyed our film, you might be interested in our range of books on topics such as relationships. To explore click the link on your screen now.
One of the frequent and painful paradoxes of romantic life is that the more we get to
00:10
know and love someone, the harder it can be to summon up any sincere wish to sleep with
00:16
them. Intimacy and closeness, far from fostering deeper sexual desire, can be the very ingredients
00:23
that destroy excitement – whereas having only just recently met a person and not feeling
00:29
too much for them can set up awkward yet compelling preconditions for wanting very badly to take
00:35
them to bed.
00:37
The conundrum is sometimes colloquially referred to as the ‘madonna-whore complex.’ It
00:43
can sound offensive and reactionary phrased like this – as if the problem applied to only
00:47
one gender and might at some level condone or even promote the very dynamic that it described.
00:54
And yet the phrase circles something highly significant, always contemporary and of relevance
01:00
to every gender (it might, for heterosexual women, be known as the ‘saint brute complex’).
01:06
It was Sigmund Freud who first drew attention to our difficulties connecting love with desire
01:12
in an essay of 1912 titled ‘On the Universal Tendency to Debasement in the Sphere of Love’.
01:20
Of many of his patients, he wrote: ‘Where they love, they have no desire, and where
01:25
they desire, they cannot love.’ In seeking to explain the division, Freud pointed to
01:31
two facts connected to our upbringing: first, in childhood, we are generally brought up
01:36
by people we love deeply and yet towards whom we cannot express sexual feelings (frightened
01:42
as we are by a strict incest taboo); and second, as adults, we tend to choose lovers who in
01:49
certain powerful (though unconscious) ways resemble those whom we loved most dearly as
01:55
children.
01:57
Together these influences set up a devilish conundrum whereby the more deeply we come
02:02
to love someone outside of our family, the more strongly we are reminded of the intimacy
02:07
of our early familial bonds – and hence the less free we instinctively are to express
02:14
our sexual desires without fear or reservation. An incest taboo originally designed to limit
02:20
the genetic dangers of inbreeding can thus succeed in inhibiting and eventually ruining
02:25
our chances of enjoying intercourse with someone to whom we are not in the remotest way related.
02:31
The likelihood of the incest taboo’s re-emergence with a partner increases greatly after the
02:37
arrival of children. Until then, reminders of the parental prototypes on which our choice
02:44
of lovers is subconsciously based can just about be kept at bay. But once there is a
02:50
pram in the hallway and a sweet infant referring to the person we once tied up or explored
02:55
with a sex toy as ‘mummy’ or ‘daddy’, both parties may significantly start to take
03:01
fright, complain of feeling tired and turn in early.
03:04
A dichotomy grows between the ‘pure’ things one can do with a partner one loves and the
03:10
‘dirty’ things one still longs to do – but can only imagine being free enough to do with
03:16
a near stranger. It can feel untenably disrespectful to want to make love to, or to put the matter
03:22
at its sharpest, fuck the kind person who is later going to be preparing lunch boxes
03:26
and arranging the school rota.
03:29
To start to overcome the problem, it pays to observe that not all childhoods are equal
03:34
in their tendencies to generate sexual difficulties for people in later life. A parent who is
03:40
very uncomfortable with their body may send out covert signals that sex is invariably
03:45
dirty, bad and dangerous – and thereby lends their child an impression that it truly can’t
03:50
belong within a loving relationship. A more integrated and mature parent on the other
03:56
hand may suggest that they are reconciled to their desires and relaxed about some of
04:01
the proto-sexual things that small children naturally and innocently do: make a great
04:07
deal of noise and mess, take an interest in their bodies and (at a certain age) talk about
04:12
poo a lot. The feeling that one can be naughty and still loved and ‘good’ is one the
04:17
great gifts a parent may bequeath to their child.
04:20
A lot of the work to repair the love/sex dichotomy can, strangely for something so physical,
04:27
be done in the mind. We can conceptually start to rehabilitate sex as a serious and in its
04:33
way entirely respectable topic that good people who love their children and their jobs and
04:39
are invested in an upstanding life can be profoundly interested in; that there need
04:43
be no conflict between a longing to be filthy and depraved at some points and decorous and
04:49
respectable at others. We can contain multitudes: the us that wants to flog or be debased or
04:55
smear and the us that wants to advise, nurture and counsel. One can be whore and madonna,
05:02
brute and saint. Rather than seeking out different partners, we might settle, less disruptively,
05:09
on merely adopting different roles. A child cannot express love and sexuality to a parent;
05:15
and vice versa. But it is one of the privileges of adulthood, that we no longer have to be
05:20
hampered by such a paradigm. Our lovers need not be only cosy co-parents and responsible
05:27
sweet friends, they can for a time – in the very best transgressive sense – also be something
05:33
else that is hugely important to our mental well-being and the survival of our relationships:
05:38
partners in crime.
05:44
If you enjoyed our film, you might be interested in our range of books on topics such as relationships. To explore click the link on your screen now.
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